Well, there is a rumor the SP has 1 of his cats tethered to his thunder mug, under the front porch, soooooooooo.............
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Against all Animal testing because they are innocent unless corrupted by Humans like Pit Bulls... I'm all for the same testing being done on Humans, though... Eliminate the Death Penalty and institute a Torture policy. First up is Fauci and Collins and the heads of Pharma like Pfizer and Moderna and all the NAZIS at Bayer / Basf... There is a lot of experiments though, so the next groups are Child Molesters and Rapists.
Those crimes would drop real quickly... The only 3 Hots and a Cot with weight benches would be for other Criminals like Car thieves...
As far as Fauci never being the Director, that has nothing to do with anything. Collins let his fellow NAZI do whatever he wanted to.
"The faucet" 1st denied, but was then forced to admit that the NIH funded gain of function research, when he was in charge.
However, in truth, approvals are channeled thru 10 different gov. agencies, each with the ability to amend, prior to approval.
However, in truth, approvals are channeled thru 10 different gov. agencies, each with the ability to amend, prior to approval.
Speaking of BASF........
https://www.wsaz.com/2024/12/25/fir...m-UvCHH-_Iq34DIP0w_aem_noeEx4b5mWwSDgbhPvkZHg
Wonder what all i breathed in overnight
MERRY CHRISTMAS 
From the article I posted; Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, responds to questions by Senator Rand Paul during the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC on July 20, 2021. (Photo by J. Scott Applewhite / POOL / AFP) (Photo by J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE/POOL/AFP via Getty Images) ((Photo by J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE/POOL/AFP via Getty Images))
The fact remains that despite "the faucet's" denials, the U.S. funded gain of function research, at the wuhan labs.
Ron Van
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Fauci was not the director of NIH. He was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is one of the 27 Institutes and Centers of the NIH. Fauci was on the American public payroll for over five decades. He worked for the NIH. He lied about masks, the origin of Covid-19, and he lied about the covid vaccine. Here’s how….
While looking at the NIH website, I saw that they had a link to the NIH interim results from the clinical trial of NIH-Moderna COVID-19 vaccine. I had previously looked at the Pfizer trial results and not surprising, they were very similar. You would think they would be a little different but they weren’t. Here’s what they say…
Phase 3 trial of the investigational COVID-19 vaccine known as mRNA-1273 reviewed trial data and shared its interim analysis with the trial oversight group on Nov. 15, 2020. This interim review of the data suggests that the vaccine is safe and effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 in adults.
The DSMB (data and safety monitoring board) reported that the candidate (the Vaccine) was safe and well-tolerated and noted a vaccine efficacy rate of 94.5%.”
How they came up with 94.5% is where the big lie is! The thing that bothers me is that Fauci, NIH, and our government went along with it! Here are the numbers and the lying statistics.
More than 30,000 participants at 100 clinical research sites in the United States are participating in the study, which launched on July 27, 2020.
They were to continue the study until 100 volunteers got covid but for some reason the numbers indicate that they ended the study when 95 people got sick.
They divided the volunteers into two groups of approximately 15,000+. One group got the vaccine and the other group got a placebo.
90 out of 15,000 got covid with the placebo. That’s .6% (less than 1%)
5 out of 15,000 got covid with the covid vaccine. That’s .03%
So less than 1% of either group got covid. The difference between .03% (Vax’d group) and .6% (UnVax’d) is .57%. There is less than 1% difference between getting covid with the vaccine or not getting the vaccine. So a normal person would say that there is less than 1% difference between getting the vaccine and not getting the vaccine. Then you might ask yourself, Is it worth it?
So how did the DSMB and Fauci come up with the 94.5% efficacy? Here’s the big Lie! If you take the 90 that got sick with the placebo and subtract the 5 that got covid with the vaccine, you get 85. Then, 85/90=.944444, rounded to 94.5%. That right…funny math. It’s called “Relative Risk Reduction,” because .03% is a 94.5% lower number than .6%.
This article demonstrates how the relative risk reduction calculation obscures the magnitude of disease risk reduction in clinical research. The absolute risk reduction is shown to be a more precise and reliable measure of treatment and vaccine efficacy in clinical research studies. The absolute risk reduction reciprocal also measures the number needed to treat or vaccinate, and is a more accurate measure than the relative risk reduction for comparing risk reductions of clinical studies. Additionally, the article reviews consequences of COVID-19 vaccine efficacy misinformation disseminated through media reports. The article concludes that relative risk reduction should not be used to measure treatment and vaccine efficacy in clinical trials.
Relative or Absolute risk?
There are many different ways to measure risk. Relative risk, sometimes called the risk ratio, is good for showing the difference between two groups but can be misleading as it is independent of the original number of cases. The fact that there was less than 1% overall difference between the Vax’d and UnVax’d groups should also be stated – we call this the absolute risk difference.
Even though everyone knew this, It was not reported as an Absolute Risk of less than 1% because who would take an unapproved drug with possible (probable) side effects for less than 1% improvement in chances of not getting covid . . . and as it turns out, all the other benefits of the vaccine turned out to be false like, it prevents transmission.
FWIW...... from a health-care professional. We are nearly 5 years into this, people still do not stay home when they are sick, people still want to pretend that this isn't a big deal, people still don't want to wash their hands, wear a mask when symptomatic (which should have been a thing for decades before when you were sick) and people still get pissed off when you tell them that their hospital room door (or their loved ones) has to remain closed at all times.
I do not understand the logic of this train of thought.
ALL Of my sick time has been used up because of Covid, it counts as an occurance if I have to stay home. Because of my work schedule if I become symptomatic on a Tuesday, test positive Wednesday, I automatically am not allowed to work my Thursday, Friday or Sat..... then I have to retest on Sunday..... I have always still been positive on day 5, therefore I can't go to work on at Least Monday or Tuesday and quite possibly Wednesday. Now, in this scenario...... I just blew through 84 hours of sicktime because people cannot follow simple hygiene rules.
I must add that I still wear my mask in every single patients room that I enter, and have for the entire 5 years.
That is a gross injustice in my eyes.
I don't care if people choose to not vaccinate, I myself have only had 2. However, I do care when people want to make other people sick.... because they feel like it's their right.....
Everytime a patient or family says "oh I didn't know," my blood pressure skyrockets. Like what rock have you been under for nearly 5 years?
There's nothing knew about the government with this.... For goodness sake we have a demented President who pardoned his own son, removed the death penalty for convicted murderers and didn't have the cognitive awareness to remain on stage for interviews and such.
Anyways carry on lol
I do not understand the logic of this train of thought.
ALL Of my sick time has been used up because of Covid, it counts as an occurance if I have to stay home. Because of my work schedule if I become symptomatic on a Tuesday, test positive Wednesday, I automatically am not allowed to work my Thursday, Friday or Sat..... then I have to retest on Sunday..... I have always still been positive on day 5, therefore I can't go to work on at Least Monday or Tuesday and quite possibly Wednesday. Now, in this scenario...... I just blew through 84 hours of sicktime because people cannot follow simple hygiene rules.
I must add that I still wear my mask in every single patients room that I enter, and have for the entire 5 years.
That is a gross injustice in my eyes.
I don't care if people choose to not vaccinate, I myself have only had 2. However, I do care when people want to make other people sick.... because they feel like it's their right.....
Everytime a patient or family says "oh I didn't know," my blood pressure skyrockets. Like what rock have you been under for nearly 5 years?
There's nothing knew about the government with this.... For goodness sake we have a demented President who pardoned his own son, removed the death penalty for convicted murderers and didn't have the cognitive awareness to remain on stage for interviews and such.
Anyways carry on lol
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Another prospective, mine.
I'm 83, haven't been vaccinated for anything other than tetanus, since 1969 & don't intend on changing now.
My blood type is "O" positive, and I have a daily routine of VIT. C, IRON, ZINK & D3.
I seldom wear a mask, and avoid the unmasked hackers & coughers.
Every recovering COVID patient, I asked at the VA, ALL, had blood types, other than O.
I'm 83, haven't been vaccinated for anything other than tetanus, since 1969 & don't intend on changing now.
My blood type is "O" positive, and I have a daily routine of VIT. C, IRON, ZINK & D3.
I seldom wear a mask, and avoid the unmasked hackers & coughers.
Every recovering COVID patient, I asked at the VA, ALL, had blood types, other than O.
You can't avoid those people in healthcare.... however even though I am super careful, I have had C-vid more than once. I also have the same blood type as you.
While your potential for exposure is elevated, be systemically cautious and prudent in your own selections, is paramount in avoidance.
I was hospitalized, with a minor stroke, what a joke, you always loose something, before the VA had established a primary COVID WARD, so, I was extremely cautious in my associations. All the med folks were masked up.
I was hospitalized, with a minor stroke, what a joke, you always loose something, before the VA had established a primary COVID WARD, so, I was extremely cautious in my associations. All the med folks were masked up.
I am not passing judgement, but merely observing with the following:
One of the "test dummies" in one of the Covid-19 vaccine trials was me. At that time, most of the country was on semi-lockdown. Almost all wore masks and were hyper about cleanliness.
So how accurate was the trial with all of these added protective measures in place? I realize this was a hurry-up trial, so some allowances are to be made. Now, however, perhaps new trials should be done. (At least Stage 3 Efficacy)
A few months later- I was in the phase 3 clinical trial (Efficacy stage) for the first RSV vaccine. RSV is transmitted from person to person primarily by breath, Again- Masks were on about everybody. Sanitizer & disinfectants were all over. Now, the money making manufacturer should probably be required to re-test.
Just my thoughts. Not judgement, thoughts.
Paul
PS: For the record, I still wear a mask in most indoor public places, especially if people will be crowded near each other, such as a grocery checkout line. The last thing I want to do is pass along an illness to someone. I'm selfish and keeping my germs for myself!
In the grocery store, one sees people sniffing, coughing, sneezing and touching door handles, products, carts, etc. Some of the same stuff I am going to bring into my home.
Maybe this is over-kill but I wipe down grocery carts with sanitizer, or even disinfectant, wipes. I wipe down or wash whatever I touched in public- including my car door handles, credit card and such. We wash our groceries that are washable, such as canned good and produce. We try to sanitize or disinfect cardboard boxed goods. (Not sure how well that works)
After all, the word "Gross" is in "Grocery".
Interestingly, "the faucet", advocated both for and against. Hypocrisy anyone?
Other than washing fresh veggies, I never followed any of those routines.
3 of my immediate family members have tested positive for covid, gained from their social and economic exposure.
I've never tested positive, for anything other than systemic aggravation.
Other than washing fresh veggies, I never followed any of those routines.
3 of my immediate family members have tested positive for covid, gained from their social and economic exposure.
I've never tested positive, for anything other than systemic aggravation.
I don't understand why you would play Russian Roulette like that, Paul... To each their own, I guess.
I wipe everything down with Vinegar or Peroxide, but have been doing that since 2005, nothing to do with Covid, which I believe is a completely fabricated non existing lie that the Gubment invented considering it has never been proven to exist...
I mean, it could exist, marking the First time the US Gubment has told the truth since Lincoln, but I heavily lean towards them allowing the Nazi Pharma companies to make Hundreds of Billions in revenue for something that magically and completely replaced the Flu for 2 Years because all the decision makers get plenty of $$$$$$ for going along with it.
I wipe everything down with Vinegar or Peroxide, but have been doing that since 2005, nothing to do with Covid, which I believe is a completely fabricated non existing lie that the Gubment invented considering it has never been proven to exist...
I mean, it could exist, marking the First time the US Gubment has told the truth since Lincoln, but I heavily lean towards them allowing the Nazi Pharma companies to make Hundreds of Billions in revenue for something that magically and completely replaced the Flu for 2 Years because all the decision makers get plenty of $$$$$$ for going along with it.
I guess the concern was to do anything I could to expedite a covid-19 vaccine approval. Too many kids & elderly were dying around here.
For the RSV trial, it was a request from someone whom I greatly respect. In that trail, participants weren't exposed intentionally to RSV. It was a "real life" trial. But still, how real life was it when about everyone in the world was wearing masks and were extra vigilant about cleaning stuff?
Your vinegar or peroxide routine sounds like a great plan. In the food manufacturing plants I used to work, vegetables which weren't going to be cooked were washed then hydrogen peroxide was applied. The theory was to destroy pathogens that would accelerate spoilage, thus prolong shelf life of the final product.
I'll have to give it a try.
We, too, have been washing groceries for decades- long, long before covid-19. I guess I saw too many people sneezing on things. Who wants to pick up the flu or whatever troublesome malady is on the products?
Germaphobic? No, just common sense Germ Awareness.
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Ron Van
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I don't have any negative feeling about anyone whether they got vaccinated or whether they did not. Our Government did a good job of spreading propaganda making it extremely hard to make a good decision based on facts because they lied. I already outlined the lie about the 94.5% efficacy in post #12708 above but then there was the lie about the vaccine preventing sickness and also preventing transmission of covid. These both turned out to be not true.
My daughter told me I was putting her family at risk because I was UnVax'd. I asked how I was putting her in danger since she was vax'd and that should save her. She said the vax, If I had received it, would prevent transmission. Again, I said, she doesn't have to worry since she was vax'd. I think, deep down, she knew none of these claims were true and she was scared due to the government and their media saying you will surely die if you don't get Vax'd.
Here's what Resident Biden said at a CNN Townhall in July of 2021; HERE
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden offered an absolute guarantee Wednesday that people who get their COVID-19 vaccines are completely protected from infection, sickness and death from the coronavirus.
BIDEN: “If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in the IC unit, and you’re not going to die.” — town hall.
THE FACTS: As of July 12, 2021, the government had tallied 5,492 vaccinated people who tested positive for coronavirus and were hospitalized or died.
BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” — town hall.
BIDEN, when asked about vaccinated people who get infected: “It may be possible, I know of none where they’re hospitalized, in ICU and or have passed away so at a minimum I can say even if they did contract it, which I’m sorry they did, it’s such a tiny percentage and it’s not life threatening.” — remarks to reporters after the event.
How is a person supposed to make an intelligent decision when the Resident, the government, and the State Sponsored media lies to them?
My beef is not with any person who got vaccinated or not. My beef is with our government who knowingly lied to us (again!) They knew the Vaccine didn't prevent sickness...their own study showed that. They probably knew the vaccine didn't prevent transmission although I can't prove when they knew. . .but they know it now. They are still claiming the vaccine reduces the chance of sickness but I wonder if it will ever come out that this claim is inaccurate too. Their test results don't mention anything about patients with acquired immunity which would be a huge factor in my opinion.
They silenced any doctor or scientist that disagreed with their narrative like Dr Robert Malone, Dr Rand Paul, or educated people like Robert Kennedy.
Friday, October 8, 2021 - FEE Foundation for Economic Education HERE
Stanford Epidemiologist Says COVID Vaccination Is Primarily a Matter of Personal Health, Not Public Health
An abundance of scientific data undermine justifications for COVID vaccination mandates, which violate long-standing principles of bodily autonomy and individual rights.
Studies from multiple countries now indicate that vaccination alone is less effective than the acquired immunity many already possess and unable to prevent transmission in the medium-to-long term.
Multiple studies (including one out of Israel that has received global attention) now indicate that those who have recovered from infection possess a natural immunity more robust than what current vaccines provide. Further, three epidemiologists at Harvard, Oxford, and Stanford have specifically recommended in the Great Barrington Declaration (now co-signed by nearly 15,000 medical and public health scientists, as well as 44,000 medical practitioners) that “nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity” to protect patients.
My daughter told me I was putting her family at risk because I was UnVax'd. I asked how I was putting her in danger since she was vax'd and that should save her. She said the vax, If I had received it, would prevent transmission. Again, I said, she doesn't have to worry since she was vax'd. I think, deep down, she knew none of these claims were true and she was scared due to the government and their media saying you will surely die if you don't get Vax'd.
Here's what Resident Biden said at a CNN Townhall in July of 2021; HERE
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden offered an absolute guarantee Wednesday that people who get their COVID-19 vaccines are completely protected from infection, sickness and death from the coronavirus.
BIDEN: “If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in the IC unit, and you’re not going to die.” — town hall.
THE FACTS: As of July 12, 2021, the government had tallied 5,492 vaccinated people who tested positive for coronavirus and were hospitalized or died.
BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” — town hall.
BIDEN, when asked about vaccinated people who get infected: “It may be possible, I know of none where they’re hospitalized, in ICU and or have passed away so at a minimum I can say even if they did contract it, which I’m sorry they did, it’s such a tiny percentage and it’s not life threatening.” — remarks to reporters after the event.
How is a person supposed to make an intelligent decision when the Resident, the government, and the State Sponsored media lies to them?
My beef is not with any person who got vaccinated or not. My beef is with our government who knowingly lied to us (again!) They knew the Vaccine didn't prevent sickness...their own study showed that. They probably knew the vaccine didn't prevent transmission although I can't prove when they knew. . .but they know it now. They are still claiming the vaccine reduces the chance of sickness but I wonder if it will ever come out that this claim is inaccurate too. Their test results don't mention anything about patients with acquired immunity which would be a huge factor in my opinion.
They silenced any doctor or scientist that disagreed with their narrative like Dr Robert Malone, Dr Rand Paul, or educated people like Robert Kennedy.
Friday, October 8, 2021 - FEE Foundation for Economic Education HERE
Stanford Epidemiologist Says COVID Vaccination Is Primarily a Matter of Personal Health, Not Public Health
An abundance of scientific data undermine justifications for COVID vaccination mandates, which violate long-standing principles of bodily autonomy and individual rights.
Studies from multiple countries now indicate that vaccination alone is less effective than the acquired immunity many already possess and unable to prevent transmission in the medium-to-long term.
Multiple studies (including one out of Israel that has received global attention) now indicate that those who have recovered from infection possess a natural immunity more robust than what current vaccines provide. Further, three epidemiologists at Harvard, Oxford, and Stanford have specifically recommended in the Great Barrington Declaration (now co-signed by nearly 15,000 medical and public health scientists, as well as 44,000 medical practitioners) that “nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity” to protect patients.
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Good reason, but knowing about the dangers of MRNA, I assume you won't do that again?
I know they use PAA, a mix between Vinegar and Peroxide for Chicken in some plants. I also know some use Chlorine. The problem is you don't know which until you have purchased it.
Exactly. Even if I'm not around anybody, I spray my hands with Vinegar or Peroxide after blowing my nose or sneezing... I'm not a Germophobe, but am averse to other people's nastiness thanks to getting a face full of Raw sewage in Iraq... The rest of my time there, I was known as Sergeant S Lips...
Exactly. I have no problem with normal people on any topic pretty much.
Well, when you're like me, going off well over a Century of them constantly lying, I just call everything they say a Lie unless proven otherwise. It's not surprising that basically every "Conspiracy Theory" ends up being True.
Yeah, that's the question that none of the hardliners can answer. There was no Businesses that I know of around here that blocked people that didn't have the Shot, but it happened in Blue Cities... They even used TV shows to lie to the public. the Doctors (Actors) on "Chicago Med" blamed a Lady's Death on her not getting the Shot, so that show isn't allowed in this House.
From what I learned in teh study, and including from an epidemiologist family member and from a pharmaceutical scientist family member, the vaccines for covid-19 positively don't prevent people from spreading the virus.
For example- If I get vaccinated, but later am exposed to and am carrying the virus, I can readily spread it to others. They can become ill. To me, current on the vaccine, that reason is a great incentive to wear a mask when in close quarters or near compromised people. Why risk spreading the virus?
As far as mRNA vaccines go, they don't do anything but teach the body how to fight the virus. So, pretty much the vaccine lays around doing nothing until it's called to active duty. Detailed articles are available at the CDC and WHO web sites.
After all of this is done, our bodies have learned how to fight that virus and will attack it next time. But, new strains develop and new vaccines have to be developed constantly.
That works far differently than, for example, a flu vaccine. Those typically introduce dead virus to cause the body to immediately produce antibodies. That is why sometime we feel kind of lousy after a flu vaccine.
But any vaccine takes time, even weeks, to be effective.
